09.12.2009: CHALLENGES WITH CHINA DISCUSSED AT HUMAN RIGHTS EXCHANGE

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SUBJECT: CHALLENGES WITH CHINA DISCUSSED AT HUMAN RIGHTS

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Classified By: Deputy Political Counselor Mary Curtin for reasons 1.4(b

) and (d).

1. (C) SUMMARY. The recent EU-China human rights dialogue

dominated discussions during the December 4 human rights

exchange (HRE) on China. Participants from the EU, Sweden,

The Netherlands, Germany, Hungary, Australia, Japan,

Switzerland, Norway, Canada and the U.S. also discussed

efforts to mainstream human rights into their overall

relationships with China and debated possible avenues for

cooperation with the Chinese. The Dutch hosts concluded the

conversation with a session on the current state of freedom

of religion in China. Canada will host the next human rights

exchange in May 2010. END SUMMARY.

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FROSTY CLIMATE AT EU-CHINA DIALOGUE

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2. (C) Swedish xxxx

began the session by providing a bleak assessment of the

November 20 EU-China human rights dialogue. xxxx

explained that the Chinese failed to provide relevant

information and spent an inordinate amount of time detailing

human rights violations in EU member states. Rule of law was

the main topic on the EU side, but according to xxxx

the Chinese answered all inquiries by reiterating the "Three

Supremes" doctrine (the will of

the party and the will of the people will override the

importance of the written law in legal cases). "China then

encouraged the EU to find a more open attitude toward rule of

law," xxxx said. China also sharply attacked the UN

Special Procedures by stating that rapporteurs and envoys

should be elected with consideration to better geographic

distribution. According to xxxx, the one positive

aspect of the dialogue was an extensive reply to individual

cases by the Chinese. The Chinese, he guessed, were

attempting to thwart any EU attempts to bring up more

individual cases at the EU-China summit ten days later.

3. (C) xxxx then asked European Commission Human

Rights xxxx, xxxx, to comment on

the legal seminar and field visits attached to the dialogue.

The seminars remains highly politicized, explained xxxx, and

the Chinese objected to almost all aspects of the

organization and participation, including specific opposition

to the participation of representatives from Amnesty

International and Human Rights Watch. To end deliberations

the EU agreed to circulate, on the Chinese Ministry of

Foreign Affair´s behalf, a notice forbidding individuals from

participating in side meetings outside the legal seminar.

The EU did conduct its own side meetings with the Ministry of

Labor and the Ministry of Justice, but xxxx described these

as "dual monologues" instead of actual discussions.

Reflecting on his experience, xxxx, who has participated in

four prior EU-China dialogues, said that the atmosphere was

"aggressive, assertive, frosty" and the most difficult he had

experienced. xxxx agreed, adding that China repeatedly

reiterated that these are new times and China is "no longer

going to sit here to be lectured by you."

4. (C) This aggressive atmosphere of the seminar and human

rights dialogue marred joint statement negotiations prior to

the EU-China summit, explained European Commission xxxx. However, according to

xxxx, the EU brought up human rights concerns, but not

individual cases, at the ministerial troika prior to the

summit, at European Commission President Jose Manual

Barroso´s private dinner with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, at

the press conference, and at the summit itself.

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MAINSTREAMING HUMAN RIGHTS VIS--VIS CHINA

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5. (C) Several other HRE participants described similar

efforts to mainstream human rights concerns into other

aspects of their relationships with China. The Dutch, for

example, explained that it is their policy to brief all

ministers on human rights issues of concern to their

portfolios prior to visiting China. Canada said that they

used ministerial meetings as a means to raise human rights

following the suspension of their formal dialogue. The U.S.

also described its interest in expanding an "interagency

approach" to raising key human rights issues, emphasizing the

role rule of law, the free flow of information, religious

tolerance, and a vibrant civil society can play in helping to

address global challenges and maintaining stability.

6. (U) Currently the EU is evaluating the EU-China human

rights dialogue, and one aspect of the review is how best to

mainstream human rights issues. The EU is also trying to

determine how to assess the impact and success of the

dialogue, as well as evaluating the legal seminar. Since

member states have not come to any conclusions, the European

Council representative did not comment on the evaluation´s

internal or strategic recommendations.

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DETERORIATING CONDITIONS

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7. (C) HRE participants agreed that human rights and civil

society conditions within China are generally deteriorating,

especially the rule of law. European Commission Human Rights

xxxx said that his contacts are

reporting that human rights lawyers are increasingly harassed

by police and experiencing increased pressure by the Beijing

Lawyers Association. Australia reported concern about the

continued imprisonment by petitioners in black jails. When

the EU asked China about these black jails during the EU

dialogue, xxxx explained, Chinese officials dismissed

them as "guest-houses" for the petitioners. xxxx said

that the Chinese appear to now use a new, more relativist

approach to human rights, refusing to accept the universality

concept. Despite this, xxxx agreed with the U.S. delegation

comment that human rights defenders in China feel it is

useful to have interactions with the diplomatic community.

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ANY OTHER OPTIONS?

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8. (C) Meanwhile, European Commission xxxx argued that

pressing the Chinese on political

rights is a "dead end." According to xxxx, there are

subjects on which China can be engaged, but they are in

realms that diplomats traditionally lack technical expertise,

such as migration, health, and conflict resolution within

companies. Canada offered environmental issues as one

subject on which cooperation with the China may be possible.

The Dutch, however, disagreed, stating that not pushing China

in multilateral fora to accept the universality of human

rights would undermine everyone´s efforts. The challenge,

said the U.S. delegation, is to identify internal debates in

Chinese society and government over reform, and then to

determine how best to support the reform under consideration.

Labor law is one area where continued progress is possible.

The Swedes agreed and offered violence against women and

anti-discrimination as two other possible avenues for

cooperation.

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FREEDOM OF RELIGION

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9. (C) Finally, HRE participants discussed freedom of

religion in China as this session´s theme. The Dutch

provided a historical perspective on the situation, saying

that in China, religion is not viewed as an intrinsic right,

but rather as a tool of society. During a recent conference,

the Dutch continued, the Chinese appeared very interested in

religion´s role in providing welfare. The U.S. agreed, and

said that the U.S. plans on discussing faith-based aid during

the upcoming human rights dialogue and working group on

religion. The U.S. will invite the Chinese to look at our

system to demonstrate how including religious groups in our

infrastructure promotes stability. Participants also

expressed concern about the situation in Tibet and Xinjiang,

including recent executions and the continued persecution of

the Falun Gong.

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10. (C) Canada will host the next HRE sometime toward the end

of May and Germany offered to host during the second half of

2010.

11. (U) DRL cleared this cable.

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